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Post by Dromar on Apr 20, 2004 7:55:00 GMT 1
Hello boys,
Yes this is Dromar.
Lets get right to it. A while back I was banned by an admin for no reason at all. Now before all this some players, some of which may have been from TLP or admined on TLP, started a thread on my forum where they claimed to have proff of me hacking on their servers. All they have is proof of a user with the remote address "4.8.23.173". Although I only have one connection to the internet, a DSL line, I do have two seprate and dedicated addresses, however, neither of theses addresses are any where near the 4.8.23.0 - 4.8.23.255 range.
Before you start to shout how similar my address is to the hackers address, you should first understand how networks work. You see my two addresses are in the range 4.8.244.0 - 4.8.246.0. There are only 512 connections in that range but there are more than 65,000 connections in the range 4.8.23.0 - 4.8.244.255.
Some posters have suggested that dynamic IPs are similar to random IPs. They are not. At no time will a divice connectiong to a network at 4.8.244.xxx ever connect to the network at 4.8.23.xxx, and the reason is that the two address ranges branch off way back in the network.
Some one else suggested that i purchased two different DSL lines. Thats not true either and its also a very stupid suggestion. DSL cost almost $100/mo. and one connection is enough for more than 256 computers.
Now who amung you actually know what your talking about? Where is your proof, the evidence you claim supports you when you trash my name.
I don't want any replies from a K.I.D.
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Post by BlaaT0001 on Apr 20, 2004 10:21:50 GMT 1
Have you taken a look at this: tlp.proboards7.com/index.cgi?board=report&action=display&n=1&thread=95I've seen you play a couple of times, and most of the times your ping is way over 200. Hopping and lagging all over my screen I'm having major problems hitting you with single shooting guns. If you got banned it's most likely because of your bad ping. The rules clearly state one must have an avarage ping under 175 at least. What error message do you get when you try to connect to the server? I'm not one of the TLP admins, and I don't know why or even if you got banned. But I do know high pingers are not welcome on the TLP server. And that's the main reason why I love this server so much! Cheers, BlaaT |
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Post by Skunk0001 on Apr 20, 2004 12:51:27 GMT 1
You are trying to explain to Spookstah and Serkoon how IP networks work  , you really must have no idea who you are talking to. Even in your message you forgot that the subnet mask can change the amount of possible hosts dramatically and even if we presuming that your examples were 255.255.255.0 then you still forgot that an address can never end in 255 since its the broadcast address for that subnet, meaning that there are only 254 available addresses per subnet (0 also not counting). I can assure you they know more than you (and I for that matter) do about the subject, and that you wouldnt be banned without a reason. Perhaps you should concentrate more on trying to find out why you are banned and making a polite attempt to reason with them, rather than flaunting your current ill-advised and condescening attitude. |
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Post by serkoon on Apr 25, 2004 0:08:31 GMT 1
Lets get right to it. A while back I was banned by an admin for no reason at all. Now before all this some players, some of which may have been from TLP or admined on TLP, started a thread on my forum where they claimed to have proff of me hacking on their servers. All they have is proof of a user with the remote address "4.8.23.173". Although I only have one connection to the internet, a DSL line, I do have two seprate and dedicated addresses, however, neither of theses addresses are any where near the 4.8.23.0 - 4.8.23.255 range. I have a hard time remembering this story. After checking the nicklogger logs I see two nicks for 4.8.23.173: The Dragon and Dromar (with fancy colors). I assume we caught The Dragon / Dromar from that address trying to (admin?)hack. There's no such thing as the "4.8.23.0 - 4.8.244.255" range. The range 4.8.23.173 is in, is "GTE.net LLC GTEN-LVLT-4-8-16 (NET-4-8-16-0-1) - 4.8.16.0 - 4.8.23.255" (see whois.arin.net). This isn't always the case. When I checked 4.8.23.1 and 4.8.244.1 yesterday, they were both routed through 4.24.207.2. When I traceroute them now, they are indeed routed quite differently. Agreed, I'd say that suggestion was quite far-fetched. I can't really remark on this, since I don't remember the entire story anymore.. Based on the stuff I extracted from nicklogger.log just yet, I can't say with certainty that you were the one connecting from 4.8.23.173. What we do in cases like this, is simply going through the nick/IP log to see who has been connected from that IP-address and what IP-address that nick or nicks have connected from. In this case, your nick has been used from IP-address 4.8.23.173. Because the other IP-address is assigned to a system we thought to be in the vicinity of yourself, there was reason to conclude that you might have connected from 4.8.23.173 and that your IP-addresses were dynamically assigned. However.. it's also possible -and since you're taking the time and effort to type all this, we should consider this to be the truth- that somebody else used your nick in stead. That would make sense if that someone knew (s)he is/was living in the same city as you do. Anyway, an URL to the posts on your forum would be nice. Based on what I wrote above, I don't think _I_ have said I was _sure_ you were the hacker. I can see you don't like to be banned if you're innocent, but unfortunately we do not have the luxury of 100% certainty at all times.. (I edited this post because I found different traceroute results today compared to yesterday) |
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Post by Dromar on May 14, 2004 23:38:27 GMT 1
I haven't played GO in some time, too many people using speed hacks recently. Anyways..... So here's what happened. I've always had a rep of being a cheater, it's not true of course it's just a rep, but it was starting to get real bad, people started spoofing my name, even when im on the same server. Some of them would cheat/hack most would just talk a lot of sh*t. So I got on TLP, avg ping: 165 (conecting from California  , following the rules and some guy regonized my name, called me a cheater and then banned me. As for all the nonsense with the messages posted in my forum about logs and IPs, well forget about all that mess, because no matter what anyone may think I just don't cheat (its just no fun). I would appriciate it if you could unban "Dromar", I don't intend to play right now, maybe in a few weeks, right now im playing Hitman and Warcraft. Thx ;D |
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